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Friday, September 22, 2023 6:42:32 AM

Payday 3 Review (Dimokritos)

I hate to give bad publicity but having 2.000 hours in PD2 , and 200 hours in PD:TH (which i still play) , i can't do otherwise .
Generally I feel it more like a dowgrade from Payday 2 and as an upgrade to Payday:The Heist .

I gave 90euros , and i can't play anymore .
I have a few days off and i was waiting for this with excitement , only to receieve frustration .
By the time they fix it (if they) i would be working again and will not have time to play ...
Everything i write is based on the 3 days period i played before release .
Those are the stuff that i remember :
The good
+ Few new game mechanics that are better than the older games .
Civilians no longer run in the middle of gunfights , unlimited tie-wraps , following civs are running at last , no instant detects or back detects , I like the new guard behaviour , running while carrying stuff , NPCs gained hearing ability , crouch and running while in casing mode , slide ability .
That's it for the good things ...
The bad
VISUAL
Many like the new graphics , but that's expected people ! Payday 2 was over 10 years ago ! Still a few things are wrong with these new graphics/game engine .
- Few nice / funny graphical components are missing , like the ability to destroy plant pots . I also found many glass panels to be indestructable .
- Unoptimised game . RTX4070 and i can't get 144 FPS on first map . Even on lowest settings .
- Teamate carrying a body looks hilarious .
- Droped bodies clip through walls like in early 2000s .
- Joy's mask is a downgrade . No messages like in PD2
- Items on floor disappear when you get near them
NO SINGLEPLAYER
- Online-only made the game unplayable upon launch .
- Online-only forces you to go into matchmaking even though you are alone in a lobby .
- Game doesn't connect anymore so i can't play . Last night matchmaking jsut didn't work , this morning i got "Nebula data error" and "No connection error" .
- Even on consecutive failed log-in screens , i got multiple Unreal Engine errors .
GAMEPLAY
- Solo-ing heists on higher difficulties is imposible .
Even if you manage to reach the vault , you can't get all the loot intact by yourself (mostly speaking about dye pack timers which require at least 2 players to get all the cash intact , or the jewelry store where the manager standing in the middle of a public area full of people leaves too in short time . )
- Difficulty in loud is broken/unbalanced . Tried normal difficulty , shot 3 bullets in the head to kill an enemy . Hard , 3 headshots with the same weapon . Very hard , guess what ? 3 shots again ! The enemy litterally has the same health pool in all those 3 difficulties ! Also , even on normal , AI has aimbot . A single enemy emptied his clip on me in a single second , slicing a whole section of my armour ! Just a single unit .
- Which armour does not regenerate at full , wich was a thing since PD:TH , for 14 years now .
- Friendly AI still sucks for the 3rd time in this franchise (kinda expected tbh) .
- Civilians rescued by law enforcment are not recaptured even if you shout or shoot at them .
- You shout at a civilian to get down and NPCs outside the room , 100 meters away hear you .
- Holding E for 30 seconds to press a button feels just wrong ...
- Killstreak rip-off mechanic from Call of Duty .
- No weapon inspection
- Try to point a guard or camera places a marker
- RNG does not reset upon restart . So every run has the same steps until you complete map or exit to main menu .
MENUS / UI
- Menus are not user friendly in general .
( Quit game button is hidden in a menu tab , ESC key doesn't work either . What's more simple than that these days really ? Menu pages no do not change with mouse roller ... like in that other game ... what was it called ... Oh ! yeah ... Payday 2 ! )
- There are primary and secondary weapons in the game but there is no distinction between them in store . Pistols are secondary , duh ! but wahat about SMGs ? Are they primary (PD:TH) or secondary (PD2) ? Still haven't got one ...
- Weapon customization from Call of Duty , again , and i hate COD .
- Broken currency . Weapon cost : 75.000$ . A single modification for this weapon : 100.000$ ! Oh , and if you have 2 of these guns , you need to rebuy the mods for the 2nd .
- Very few weapon selection and weapon slots . Even on PD2 they recently added 10 pages of 16 slots (total 320 weapon slots for more than ~250 weapons!)
MISC
- Vote to restart the map instead of host having complete control over it will make host leave the game if the heist is not going like they wanted . Unlike ... yeah ... PD2 ... again ...
- No preplanning
- Vote to restart may be bugged and will not work
I would write more about what i didn't like IF I COULD LOG IN TO THE GAME !
I will edit it too , but positive review will only come if online-only features will be removed entirely and solo-ing higher difficlty heists in stealth is doable with all loot intact ! I play alone most of the times , as public lobbies are very annoying most of the times in this game series .
As always , this is my PERSONAL opinion .
Sorry for long post , thanks for reading this , developers and players alike .